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GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go:11.0]
SZ[19]
HA[0]
ST[0]
PB[Zen19]
PW[ManyFaces1]
DT[2011-01-09]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[7.5]
TM[1740]
RU[Chinese]
RE[B+Resign]
BR[4d]
WR[2d]
OT[25/60 Canadian]
C[ManyFaces1 [2d\]: GTP Engine for ManyFaces1 (white): Many Faces \
of Go version 12 (2002, 2008, 2010 world champion), playing at \
level 1 dan. Uses Many Faces' knowledge combined with Monte Carlo \
evaluation. Free evaluation download at www.smart-games.com. \
iPhone/iPod Igowin app has this full engine.
Zen19 [4d\]: GTP Engine for Zen19 (black): Zen version 6.9]
CA[UTF-8];B[pd]BL[1724.274];W[dd]WL[1737.132];B[pp]BL[1707.312];W[dq]WL[1731.732];B[ck]BL[1690.685];W[cn]WL[1728.199];B[cf]BL[1674.671];W[fd]WL[1728.043]
;B[pj]BL[1658.009];W[pg]WL[1715.765];B[mi]BL[1645.263];W[nc]
C[bigfatcat [13k?\]: 4d]
WL[1701.243];B[nd]BL[1628.504];W[md]
C[ibd [5k?\]: 13k?]
WL[1701.117];B[ne]BL[1615.011];W[oc]WL[1700.963];B[me]BL[1607.269];W[ld]
C[bigfatcat [13k?\]: Move 14]
WL[1684.642]
;B[le]BL[1590.611];W[ke]WL[1670.499];B[kf]BL[1574.001];W[od]WL[1651.021];B[oe]BL[1559.52];W[pe]WL[1638.917];B[qe]BL[1552.026];W[pf]WL[1626.392];B[qc]BL[1538.716];W[je]
C[ibd [5k?\]: wow, you can read very well]
WL[1610.586]
;B[jf]BL[1522.306];W[kq]WL[1591.493];B[ko]BL[1507.094];W[ie]WL[1570.233];B[jp]BL[1490.911];W[ch]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: super zen
Warfreak2 [4d\]: we love you zen!]
WL[1553.569];B[eh]
C[bigfatcat [13k?\]: 4d]
BL[1474.947];W[dg]
C[bigfatcat [13k?\]: !]
WL[1542.5];B[cc]
C[bigfatcat [13k?\]: how fast will ranks fall...]
BL[1459.361];W[cd]WL[1532.784]
;B[bd]BL[1451.614];W[be]WL[1525.963];B[bc]BL[1436.641];W[qq]WL[1505.127];B[ce]BL[1429.433];W[bf]
C[loskajees [2k\]: weird timing for r3
Warfreak2 [4d\]: weird timing for c15 too]
WL[1491.406];B[bg]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: r3 is not so bad i think
Warfreak2 [4d\]: but b should definitely not tenuki]
BL[1413.619];W[qp]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: r4 far too large]
WL[1474.949];B[pn]BL[1400.17];W[de]WL[1457.043]
;B[cg]BL[1388.449];W[bh]
C[fgfgbfbf: wC13 would've been better than wD15?]
WL[1445.649];B[af]BL[1372.994];W[df]
C[fgfgbfbf: oh, suppose this is the same 
Warfreak2 [4d\]: no, b should not c13
Warfreak2 [4d\]: and d15 is correct
loskajees [2k\]: now w ends in gote, but weakned more?
fgfgbfbf: I meant wC13]
WL[1436.622];B[ae]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: w is stronger
Warfreak2 [4d\]: w should not c13 either]
BL[1358.758];W[dh]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: that's what i meant by "d15 is correct"]
WL[1422.561];B[fk]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: c13 is what strong players call an "empty triangle"]
BL[1343.382];W[hi]WL[1401.409];B[hj]BL[1328.381];W[gj]
C[loskajees [2k\]: I think b will win
Warfreak2 [4d\]: zen could actually lose this game]
WL[1381.832]
;B[gk]BL[1313.126];W[ij]WL[1365.522];B[hk]
C[loskajees [2k\]: well, w top is nice, and not bad framework on \
the bottom, but b moyo seems rather big, and zen good at keeping \
moyos]
BL[1305.608];W[if]
C[bistrogo [3d\]: very strange by white]
WL[1344.332];B[lg]BL[1292.616];W[ql]WL[1328.215];B[ii]BL[1277.723];W[ih]WL[1308.851];B[ji]BL[1271.036];W[ol]WL[1289.096]
;B[om]BL[1256.248];W[oj]WL[1271.353];B[oi]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: allowing r4 is not "good at keeping moyo"]
BL[1241.416];W[qi]WL[1255.719];B[qj]BL[1234.819];W[pi]WL[1248.956];B[ok]BL[1223.389];W[rj]
C[woldsom [2k\]: he probably meant good at limiting middle-game \
reductions]
WL[1242.363];B[nj]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: this is not a reduction, this is a living group]
BL[1208.548];W[rh]
C[DnFBlitz [1k\]: what can black do on top?
woldsom [2k\]: indeed]
WL[1233.01]
;B[gq]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: best b can do on top is f18
woldsom [2k\]: DnFBlitz: reduce?]
BL[1200.599];W[pq]WL[1212.082];B[mq]
C[DnFBlitz [1k\]: yes, i wondered whether something more severe \
than F18 is possible, there is some aji and a bit of room]
BL[1185.895];W[nr]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: f18 fairly severe
DnFBlitz [1k\]: i see, i probably underestimate it]
WL[1199.99];B[mr]BL[1171.284];W[nq]WL[1189.754];B[np]BL[1163.011];W[mp]WL[1181.561];B[lp]BL[1149.129];W[mo]WL[1174.581]
;B[co]
C[bigfatcat [13k?\]: who is trying what now?]
BL[1142.302];W[lq]
C[loskajees [2k\]: weird trade by b]
WL[1151.869];B[mn]BL[1128.961];W[no]WL[1139.261];B[bq]
C[woldsom [2k\]: white should have answered I think]
BL[1115.189];W[cp]
C[loskajees [2k\]: its not like m3 was small..]
WL[1116.078];B[bo]BL[1100.851];W[do]
C[woldsom [2k\]: everything is relative]
WL[1108.853];B[bp]BL[1094.143];W[fn]WL[1093.649]
;B[ep]
C[loskajees [2k\]: so, m3 was correct choice, so long as w can still \
live?]
BL[1080.002];W[dp]WL[1084.344];B[dn]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: m3 wrong]
BL[1073.455];W[dm]WL[1076.645];B[en]BL[1060.81];W[eo]WL[1069.128];B[em]BL[1053.584];W[fp]WL[1059.667];B[gp]BL[1045.302];W[fr]WL[1048.568]
;B[fq]BL[1031.272];W[eq]WL[1039.904];B[go]BL[1023.164];W[gr]WL[1030.731];B[hr]BL[1016.347];W[ir]WL[1010.805];B[hs]
C[iceweasel [?\]: w lives]
BL[1010.015];W[iq]WL[992.879];B[gs]BL[1003.352];W[dr]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: lol
bigfatcat [13k?\]: hm]
WL[972.099]
;B[hq]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: good reading by zen
Warfreak2 [4d\]: but should atari f1]
BL[989.39];W[fo]WL[960.444];B[cr]BL[982.827];W[gn]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: now game over]
WL[949.229];B[ip]BL[976.362];W[in]WL[934.643];B[hm]BL[970.2];W[hn]WL[926.252];B[km]
C[bistrogo [3d\]: white might have still a chance to live]
BL[956.344];W[ln]WL[913.433]
;B[kn]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: nah
bistrogo [3d\]: not anymore]
BL[949.786];W[kp]
C[bistrogo [3d\]: m6 strange
Warfreak2 [4d\]: lol at this atari]
WL[905.075];B[jq]
C[bistrogo [3d\]: l4 even weirder]
BL[935.99];W[lo]WL[891.788];B[jo]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: l4 is atari
Warfreak2 [4d\]: that's the one i'm loling at]
BL[929.432];W[lm]WL[876.675];B[pl]BL[923.408];W[kl]WL[868.477];B[jl]
C[bistrogo [3d\]: i was not commenting your sentence ;)
Warfreak2 [4d\]: ic]
BL[913.07];W[jm]
C[bigfatcat [13k?\]: lol]
WL[859.554]
;B[kr]BL[906.594];W[il]WL[851.715];B[gm]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: super zen
bigfatcat [13k?\]: ...]
BL[899.315];W[jk]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: come on zen
Warfreak2 [4d\]: we believe in you!]
WL[838.789];B[ll]
C[bistrogo [3d\]: come on manyfaces
bigfatcat [13k?\]: i dont trust these machines
bistrogo [3d\]: ;)]
BL[893.498];W[lk]WL[830.105];B[im]
C[DnFBlitz [1k\]: zen is teasing white: "look, maybe you can live, \
give me a few more stones"]
BL[879.817];W[fm]
C[ML [3d\]: mf alive]
WL[819.64];B[el]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: it's alive, b needs a move at h5 to live
bigfatcat [13k?\]: now mf in kill mode]
BL[873.027];W[hl]
C[DnFBlitz [1k\]: hah, it didn't seem alive to me]
WL[796.922]
;B[gl]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: w m2 kills]
BL[867.117];W[jn]WL[781.215];B[lr]
C[bistrogo [3d\]: alive]
BL[855.522];W[nl]WL[773.844];B[pc]
C[bistrogo [3d\]: black totaly list
bigfatcat [13k?\]: now i think its be endgame and gone
bistrogo [3d\]: lost*]
BL[841.925];W[pb]WL[764.7];B[qb]BL[828.993];W[oa]WL[743.668];B[op]BL[822.036];W[kj]WL[722.784]
;B[mk]BL[808.88];W[ml]WL[717.201];B[qm]BL[798.253];W[qk]WL[710.572];B[pk]
C[ML [3d\]: close I´d say]
BL[791.448];W[oh]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: depends on f18
ML [3d\]: yes]
WL[696.511];B[rm]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: i don't think w can f17 in response]
BL[783.027];W[rf]WL[678.197];B[re]BL[769.848];W[se]WL[670.829]
;B[sd]BL[764.339];W[sf]WL[663.702];B[rc]
C[bistrogo [3d\]: d17 now!]
BL[751.591];W[ei]
C[odnihs [4d\]: since when did zen become 4d?]
WL[645.62];B[rk]
C[maproomad [-\]: recently
odnihs [4d\]: wow]
BL[742.276];W[sk]WL[628.892];B[sl]BL[736.632];W[gi]WL[616.281];B[fb]BL[730.882];W[eb]WL[608.33]
;B[db]BL[718.109];W[ak]WL[599.583];B[hb]BL[712.355];W[bm]
C[bistrogo [3d\]: wowowow]
WL[594.73];B[bj]BL[706.843];W[bk]WL[579.715];B[bl]
C[bistrogo [3d\]: what are they smoking?]
BL[699.267];W[cl]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: lol what a sac]
WL[575.145];B[cj]
C[odnihs [4d\]: wait what
maproomad [-\]: zengg19 was briefly 4d on Dec. 27th 2009
woldsom [2k\]: silicon, bistrogo]
BL[693.687];W[bn]WL[567.484]
;B[dl]BL[684.343];W[al]WL[562.881];B[ai]BL[678.837];W[cm]
C[odnihs [4d\]: loll
woldsom [2k\]: what]
WL[552.539];B[an]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: nice dream]
BL[668.382];W[dk]
C[DnFBlitz [1k\]: bots have funny ideas :)]
WL[547.966];B[ek]
C[woldsom [2k\]: ...]
BL[658.372];W[jc]WL[532.951];B[ec]BL[651.511];W[ah]
C[bistrogo [3d\]: arg mf is screwed]
WL[519.441]
;B[ao]BL[646.143];W[bi]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: uh]
WL[510.888];B[jj]
C[woldsom [2k\]: black is happy just with c7
Warfreak2 [4d\]: b let w save three]
BL[639.454];W[jh]WL[503.381];B[ki]BL[634.227];W[li]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: super zen <3]
WL[498.256];B[kh]BL[621.507];W[lh]WL[490.436];B[ik]BL[615.646];W[mh]WL[486.366]
;B[nk]BL[609.949];W[mg]WL[474.89];B[ns]BL[597.397];W[oq]WL[468.459];B[qo]BL[589.366];W[os]WL[464.405];B[am]BL[577.429];W[lp]WL[459.13];B[nm]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: gosh]
BL[572.043];W[aj]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: b wants that throwin]
WL[454.148]
;B[ed]BL[559.886];W[ee]WL[446.393];B[di]
C[guiguistar [2d\]: i'm rewiewing former moves, bot is so cool]
BL[547.872];W[ej]WL[434.489];B[fj]BL[538.046];W[fi]WL[425.886];B[dj]BL[532.687];W[hh]WL[420.011];B[mc]BL[523.054];W[lc]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: b has ko at m10]
WL[416.446]
;B[jl]BL[517.664];W[il]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: shouldn't have captured]
WL[413.218];B[lj]BL[512.376];W[mj]WL[409.712];B[mb]BL[507.08];W[ms]WL[402.801];B[ho]BL[500.028];W[nb]
C[woldsom [2k\]: was that a "I resign" from MF?]
WL[399.382];B[hl]BL[489.093];W[jl]WL[395.915]
;B[lj]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: what is b doing
ML [3d\]: long ago]
BL[484.255];W[ls]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: all bots suck at ko]
WL[390.942];B[jr]BL[479.678];W[mj]WL[387.449];B[ma]BL[474.932];W[lb]
C[woldsom [2k\]: good thing they're both bots then
woldsom [2k\]: so it's even]
WL[383.723];B[lj]BL[469.93];W[nn]WL[379.428];B[mm]BL[460.431];W[ll]WL[376.178]
;B[gd]
C[woldsom [2k\]: what]
BL[455.677];W[on]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: lol]
WL[372.168];B[nh]BL[444.445];W[fc]WL[368.662];B[ea]
C[woldsom [2k\]: what on earth
kevinwm [3k\]: q5]
BL[439.791];W[gc]WL[365.424];B[hc]
C[woldsom [2k\]: ah
kevinwm [3k\]: q5 q7 miai]
BL[435.177];W[po]WL[356.721];B[ng]BL[430.777];W[mj]WL[352.647]
;B[og]
C[bistrogo [3d\]: that's the craziest yose i've ever seen :)]
BL[423.511];W[ph]WL[349.572];B[lj]BL[415.119];W[dc]
C[kevinwm [3k\]: take
kevinwm [3k\]: n15
kevinwm [3k\]: 14]
WL[341.703];B[qg]BL[406.38];W[mj]
C[kevinwm [3k\]: ?????
woldsom [2k\]: haha]
WL[338.75];B[ni]
C[kevinwm [3k\]: I don't get this
odnihs [4d\]: loll]
BL[401.712];W[of]WL[335.511];B[nf]BL[397.369];W[qf]WL[332.851]
;B[si]BL[392.866];W[sh]WL[329.578];B[rg]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: own]
BL[388.51];W[gb]
C[teralaser [4k\]: HA!]
WL[322.56];B[sj]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: lol]
BL[384.03];W[ga]
C[bistrogo [3d\]: ^^]
WL[318.718];B[eb]
C[odnihs [4d\]: what
DnFBlitz [1k\]: nice
atheist [1d\]: don't worry kev - neither do the bots
ibd [5k?\]: whaaat]
BL[379.649];W[hd]
C[kevinwm [3k\]: are they bots?
DnFBlitz [1k\]: that was a nice kill]
WL[310.631];B[pm]BL[375.33];W[ro]WL[307.536]
;B[rn]BL[370.845];W[so]WL[300.659];B[bl]
C[BALLZ [2k\]: its good that we can laugh at this now
woldsom [2k\]: it's very even]
BL[366.623];W[lj]
C[BALLZ [2k\]: in 10 years we can't]
WL[293.459];B[qa]BL[362.32];W[jg]
C[ibd [5k?\]: if zen wins, he's the tournament winner right?]
WL[287.922];B[kg]
C[woldsom [2k\]: black probably calculated a win though]
BL[358.135];W[pa]
C[joachim [?\]: its not so easy to win only with half a point]
WL[284.345];B[ai]BL[354.033];W[aj]
C[woldsom [2k\]: Zen can do it!]
WL[278.166]
;B[ak]
C[kevinwm [3k\]: Ya - in 10 years any bot will be hand of God -1]
BL[349.909];W[mf]WL[271.753];B[ks]BL[345.296];W[cq]WL[265.902];B[br]BL[340.94];W[cs]WL[260.779];B[bs]
C[kevinwm [3k\]: c1 better there, yes?]
BL[336.69];W[ds]WL[255];B[fs]BL[332.344];W[lf]WL[249.183]
;B[ij]BL[328.237];W[es]
C[ibd [5k?\]: the endgame actually makes sense]
WL[244.636];B[ca]BL[324.345];W[ai]
C[kevinwm [3k\]: e1 silly]
WL[238.826];B[qn]BL[320.373];W[sn]WL[233.461];B[sm]BL[316.284];W[rq]WL[231.106];B[fa]BL[312.252];W[ge]
C[woldsom [2k\]: e1 brings the game closer to .5]
WL[226.364]
;B[ns]BL[308.582];W[ms]
C[woldsom [2k\]: :p
ibd [5k?\]: e2]
WL[223.075];B[ls]BL[304.67];W[ib]WL[217.144];B[ns]BL[300.881];W[rd]
C[bigfatcat [13k?\]: once bots beat humans in football with just \
density/hardness and accelaration/cm^3 limitations, then we can \
profit from having machines.]
WL[210.481];B[qd]BL[297.042];W[sb]WL[204.582];B[sc]
C[bistrogo [3d\]: ^^]
BL[293.388];W[fl]WL[199.599]
;B[io]
C[ibd [5k?\]: b wins, right?]
BL[289.641];W[qs]
C[woldsom [2k\]: yeah]
WL[195.48];B[sk]
C[loskajees [2k\]: would s19 be seki?]
BL[286.068];W[cn]
C[Nefeste [4k\]: where is s19?..]
WL[190.544];B[ci]BL[282.335];W[ra]
C[Nefeste [4k\]: damn this bots )]
WL[187.437];B[rl]
C[kevinwm [3k\]: yes!
woldsom [2k\]: there it is
Hannoskaj [?\]: Provisional.
kevinwm [3k\]: no!
DnFBlitz [1k\]: nice the gorup below is dead it's not seki]
BL[278.741];W[ag]
C[kevinwm [3k\]: collapsing
loskajees [2k\]: b can obv break the seki, but has to play in \
his own territory to do so
kevinwm [3k\]: r14 dead]
WL[182.825];B[ri]
C[Hannoskaj [?\]: t14 dies.
bistrogo [3d\]: stop tehm!!]
BL[275.097];W[rb]WL[181.795]
;B[sa]
C[odnihs [4d\]: lol]
BL[271.314];W[eg]WL[180.787];B[ms]BL[267.758];W[rp]WL[179.713];B[bb]BL[264.183];W[bn]WL[178.716];B[bm]
C[Mizoree [6k\]: ?]
BL[260.732];W[cm]WL[177.721];B[cl]BL[257.083];W[ha]WL[176.709]
;B[dm]BL[253.621];W[ff]
C[kevinwm [3k\]: Chinese bot rules - fill in all own territory
Nefeste [4k\]: w just want to time win]
WL[175.699];B[cn]BL[250.298];W[aa]WL[174.719];B[qh]
C[woldsom [2k\]: a19!
teralaser [4k\]: nice
hohjk: long game
Nefeste [4k\]: perfect 4d
ibd [5k?\]: gg cya
loskajees [2k\]: white got his motherboard handed to him
Nefeste [4k\]: unbelievable counting
Nefeste [4k\]: and cold blood]
BL[246.846])
